I’m always surprised, if not taken aback by how many of my peers do not really use Twitter. To my dismay, I find myself referencing the social platform very often in conversation (it’s the source of all my information) and am met with a blank stare. Most often, I am told by acquaintances or good friends, “I’m more of an Instagram person,” which is like telling a baseball fan that you’re more of a foodie.
Why Instagram is a more accessible and “mainstream” social platform I cannot say, nor am I really interested. Any Redditor knows far too well you cannot convert someone who simply does not have that interest. Tumblr has a similar problem, and it’s not for a lack of smart, funny, engaging people and content.
When I prompt them, these people who “are more Instagram people” will tell me the app is great because of accounts such as “The Fat Jewish” and “Fuck Jerry.” When I tell them that these accounts simply cherry pick jokes from Twitter, Reddit and Tumblr, I am often told “who cares?” I care. While sometimes the content is original, often it’s a meme or tweet lifted from a less popular account and promoted to the popular page by these two who have somehow deemed themselves the curators of internet image-sourcing.
Both accounts aren’t really trying to hide the fact that they are effectively retweeting content from one medium to another, and no one seems to really be all that upset, which in itself is problematic. The consumers of funny, dumb internet shit don’t really care where it comes from, or how it gets to Fuck Jerry or The Fat Jewish, only that it reaches their screen. When people say The Fat Jewish is funny what they really mean is that his account, made up of a million other people’s jokes, is funny.
Thing is, Fat Jew, Joshua Ostrovsky, is funny. Six years ago, if you had told me The Fat Jew from the rap group Team Facelift would be a semi-recognizable celebrity, I wouldn’t have believed it. But his debauchery offline, which is all original content, seems to be marketable thanks only to his online following. This New York Times profile aptly titled “Shortcut to Comic Celebrity,” details both his social media rise and his offline persona.
The real problem with Fat Jew and Fuck Jerry, from an ethical standpoint, is that there is money to be made in their curation and re-dissemination of internet content. It’s in the second graph of the Times feature on the Fat Jew: “It is his comedic alter ego, his Instagram persona and, if he has his way, his ticket to wealth and mainstream media success.” Billboard’s article on him claims he gets paid $2,500 to feature brands in his photos or attend their events. This isn’t about Internet people getting paid. It’s about making a profit from other people’s content. The internet is still the wild west when it comes to assigning credit to original material. Because we do not make money from this blog, we don’t worry much about crediting photos, for example. Now that the Fat Jew and FuckJerry have become cultural icons, it’s time we stop allowing them to profit from other people’s material.
Fat Jew and Fuck Jerry aren’t going away. Their accounts are the George Takei Facebook of Instagram. Admittedly, we need people to curate the best content, but it’s impossible to find everything great that’s out there. The problem is when you and your followers start viewing it as your own, and are not at all interested in finding the original source. That’s plagiarism in any other context, but for some reason, laziness perhaps, young people are fine staying away from the far more entertaining worlds of Twitter, Reddit and Tumblr where most of the best content is born.
That’s just how the internet works, Andy. To put Twitter, Tumblr and Reddit on such a pedestal as you are, thinking they’re made up of original content instead of shameless reposts, is awfully naive for someone with an internet writing career.
This is all starting to look like a meme to me.
http://www.businessinsider.com/these-instagram-users-are-going-viral-without-taking-any-of-their-own-pictures-2014-9
Don’t really see any problem with what these two accounts do. Its not like they are lifting content that would have been directly monetized anyway. ie they are not taking someones music and selling it. And most of the time if it is re-posted from a smaller instagram account, they give that account credit and to me that adds a ton of value. This week I have been tweeting at both of these accounts images I think they would dig, hoping they would re-post it.
andy, your a joke. get a real job…
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You said it, The Fat Jewish, in life and offline and online in non-instagram and twitter form, is funny. Hysterically so. Watch his videos, interviews and read his long form articles – he’s actually a great comedic mind.
Fuckjerry, Beigcardigan, and all the rest are just recyclers of content – and that is all they are. Anyone can do that, from their mom’s basement, which is where they probably are.
I think it’s funny the shit for brains commenters on this story who don’t have a problem with unfunny, unoriginal hacks making a living by cannibalizing the material of funnier and more ethical human beings. If you “don’t have a problem with it”, then there’s about a 100% chance you’re a shitty person too and thank god you all are sticking together…i guess. We just need to throw some fohawks and Ed Hardy shirts on all of you so we know who stay away from. It’s sad how stupid and careless we are as a country. This is not just retweeting something you thought was funny. These hacks are deliberately profiting off of other people’s hard work and creativity without their permission and without even attempting to acknowledge them let alone compensate them.
This is THE problem with “comedy” now. Shitty, unoriginal, mediocre dudes grow the following of a podcast (that is almost always unfunny) or a social media presence (that they earned from stealing people’s shit) then call themselves comedians. It would be annoying enough anyway but the fact that they are then able to use those as “credits” to book not only club work but fucking TV deals is infuriating. If you “don’t have a problem with it”, guess what…you ARE the problem. There are probably a million other things you are cool with that all the smart people hate you for. You’re probably driving slow in the left lane while you read this smoking an E-cig on a necklace.
and to the dude who said “andy *your* a joke…get a real job”, you should definitely kill yourself asap.
Thanks for listening. These dudes are fucking lame. If you support them, you’re lame too.
Right. Apply this to news, and look what you get…
Right. Apply this to news, and look what you get….
Love it. Dead on. All you have to do to be famous is just sift through the Internet, find other users original content and post it (with the right marketing) and then you get the recognition and profits. Yet hardly anyone finds this as idk kinda messed up? Don’t get.
Could quite possibly be the worst article I’ve ever read.
Doesnt make any sense.
The people who don’t understand what this article is saying might need to stay after school for some basic comprehension tutoring. You might not think that these Instagram accounts are wrong, in a moral sense, but it is foolish to disagree with the facts presented. I, personally, have two friends whose original artwork was posted on these accounts sans any attempt at crediting them. Whether or not Fat Jewish really is funny, or deserves to be rich, is beside the point. The people who actually created the content should be credited. That’s just basic good manners. While we can’t blame it all on the popular guys-more than likely they got it from another uncredited source, and it IS truly awesome to have all the funny stuff in one spot – accountabilty online is severely lacking, and this should not be considered acceptable.
Everyone steals everyone’s shit online, that’s what the internet is, code lifted and tweaked from other coders. Don’t hate player, hate the game. And do you know how hard it is to accurately source a meme, they are forever reposted. So happy they curate this stuff for me. As the mother of 2 (yes moms read thelma too), i no longer have time to troll reddit.
To everyone saying this is no big deal, here is an article that lays out the problems with these accounts a little more clearly:
http://www.playboy.com/articles/why-stealing-jokes-on-social-media-is-a-bigger-deal-than-you-think
The problem is this content is created by people who are aspiring comedians, and their work is taken and monetized by somebody else. It is blatant theft
Regarding this: “Because we do not make money from this blog, we don’t worry much about crediting photos, for example.”
The fact that you’re not making money off of copyrighted material doesn’t make it legal for you to use it. Consider that your use of copyrighted photos without crediting them encourages other people to perpetuate the theft of said images. Even if you’re properly using images or other copyrighted material under fair use doctrine (http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/what-is-fair-use/), the creator and/or owner should be properly credited.
Banana said it pretty accurately but I’ll elaborate.
-It’s assumed that the jokes or memes themselves are profitable without being posted by said ‘celebrity’. They may be worth a chuckle but if an individual came up with a clever meme chances are they’re going to profit jack from it. Not saying it’s right, just saying it’s not worth writing an angry article over.
-I can’t tell you what percentage of stolen memes are written by people /not/ aspiring to be comedians but I venture to guess it’s most. They simply do not care. (most likely being because they know there is no market potential for them personally without a platform inn the first place.
-If an individual is concerned about monetary loss they have the opportunity to sue for damages. (I do understand it is difficult to know that you have been ripped off, but still all is not lost if you have been plagiarized.)
-This is personal opinion and I do not expect many to agree: this culture is very entitled and I find it difficult to listen to complaints for lack of recognition for the most little and meaningless actions. A meme is like a joke fart. It’s there for a very brief moment and it’s gone. It’s rarely worth more than a chuckle. We do not need to get up in arms thinking everyone needs to know that you’ve taken 10 seconds to throw together a meme. I liken that to wanting your picture hung next to a door that you opened for someone at one point in time.
There are other, real issues to be concerned about.
hey andy
i appreciate your point of view
@barfwalton
im interested in naturally growing a following in my world view via instagram
though im inspired by the language of the medium, i am still producing and sharing only original thoughts, however trivial they may be.
i’ve been closely watching the rhythms of the accounts you refer to, and i may be in the minority but, it is frustrating to see they rely on existing thought to curate their oeuvre.
@barfwalton
i suppose it amounts to gossip, in that they celebrate “having discovered” a new entity within the naturally ocxuring, everchanging voice of the communal whole we thrive on within social media.
it’s transparent enough to not be interesting as commentary… but it’s clearly just enterprising.
so, with my paltry 100+ followers, i’ll say that the world of the fuckjerrys et al is fucking lame.
@barfwalton
as much as id like to meet the people behind these behemoth curated/farmed insta accounts, simply for their savvy in this new(ish) platform, im still annoyed that its become the status quo for celebrity…
the platform should celebrate the creators, not the curators.